Overclocking not worth it?

[White Out]

Im sure if you have all sorts of extra cooling or expensive water cooling you can get away with it, but, let me just pass on some advice to win xp users. Get a program called Tweak XP. If you have 512 megs of ram or more, putting win xp in your memory, and doing the other tweaks in that program will do more for your computer and daily computing lives than overclocking ever could. Just an idea :)

[Lag Messiah]

I totally agree about most OCing to be needless compensation. Some people drive a huge, jacked-up truck, some pack their computer with an entirely needless amount of cooling so they can OC just a little more with absolutely no noticable preformace increase...it's one of those things that people do just to say they have...it's all bragging rights. Like jumping out of a plane :rolleyes:

and I'm sure DB is writing something completely to the contrary of this while I'm typing...but as long as it makes you happy. If you won't feel right until you have gold plated rims on your car or until you have enough CFM runing through your case that all you need to get across the pacific is a sail, more power to you I say. Enjoy what you can.

[White Out]

gg messiah. I cant put into words how much tweak XP did for my comp. Night and day. When I OC'd my 2500 barton to a 2800, I saw very little, in reality, no difference. When I tweaked my OS with tweak XP, it was like I bought a new comp all over again.

[Doorbasher]

Bah! Who needs TweakXP when you've got Regedit and Regedt32?

And extra performance is never a bad thing. Sure maybe it's only another 2%, but it's 2% more than you had before.

[Tanaban]

Originally posted by Lag Messiah@Jul 21 2003, 11:53 AM
...it's all bragging rights. Like jumping out of a plane :rolleyes:
*beats will with wet noodle* Sure nuff.

Well I am not really into OCing, b/c I use my system as a file server sometimes where I leave it on for weeks on end. Some of OCing if for bragging rights, others is for the pure desire to push something beyond its normal limits, just like cars, and extreme sports. It’s all about breaking barriers.

[AMGpower]

Yes but you spend like 80 stupid dollars for fans and shit that will only get you that 2%. Spend that on a better computer in the first place. :)

[Tobalaz]

I OC up for benchmarks and bragging rights, but I clock back down after all of it. Why? I don't see any big jump in performance OC'ing my computer and since its on all the time why risk burning it up? I'm with Lag on this one (except the jumping out the plane part). Here DB, have a tissue.

[SupermanJnk]

OCing is all about the benchmarks and 3d mark scores :blink:

[JC Denton]

And then of course you have those games, and operating systems (*N?X, Windows _ME_) that are too sensitive to overclocks. Crash, crash, crash. For the ten extra FPS you just got, you just crashed your box, 10x more than you needed.

[Haysoos]

I think OCing is good. Instead of buying a processor that cost $100 more, simply buy a better heatsink for $10-$30 more and OC it. Or video cards, the GF4 ti4200 was a lesson nVidia will never forget... OCing has its merits, and so does tweaking your OS. Best used together IMO.

[Doorbasher]

Originally posted by Jesus@Jul 22 2003, 06:01 AM
I think OCing is good. Instead of buying a processor that cost $100 more, simply buy a better heatsink for $10-$30 more and OC it. Or video cards, the GF4 ti4200 was a lesson nVidia will never forget... OCing has its merits, and so does tweaking your OS. Best used together IMO.
j00 hit the nail on the head there, Jesus.

[Haysoos]

Originally posted by Doorbasher+Jul 22 2003, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Doorbasher @ Jul 22 2003, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jesus@Jul 22 2003, 06:01 AM
I think OCing is good.&nbsp; Instead of buying a processor that cost $100 more, simply buy a better heatsink for $10-$30 more and OC it.&nbsp; Or video cards, the GF4 ti4200 was a lesson nVidia will never forget...&nbsp; OCing has its merits, and so does tweaking your OS.&nbsp; Best used together IMO.
j00 hit the nail on the head there, Jesus. [/b][/quote]
OCing within reason DB. I would not consider your steup within reason. Honestly, i think you could have bought a better computer instead of all your cooling equipment and you would be much better off...

[Doorbasher]

I like to think of it as insurance. Future equipment will generate even more heat, and I'll be a bit better prepared for it. I can easily see the day when my cooling system will be low-end. Plus, the higher-end silicon costs a lot more than it's performance can justify. I would never buy an Athlon 3200+ when I could get a 2800+ for half the price and overclock it.

[Tobalaz]

Everybody has some valid points to go off of, the TI4200 was a great reason to OC just like the R9500 non-pro on the 256 bit bus. AMD's are great for OC'ing as well since the Tbred-b is a monster you can push nearly a gig out of air cooled. But with more OCing is the need of more regular maintanance. So you're getting something extra with a little more effort. I usually buy the higher end stuff when I build my computers so I don't have to worry about upgrading for a while, and if it starts to run noticably slow I might bump up a few things here and there, god knows I OCed the hell out of my R8500 (which I bought new) till I could afford a R9700 when their prices dropped. You always seem to gain more out of OCing a gpu over a cpu, why is that?

[Smithmeister]

Whats tweak XP do exactly anyway?

[tonymark01]

Originally posted by Metalhed4@Jul 24 2003, 08:34 PM
Whats tweak XP do exactly anyway?
it.....tweaks.....XP.....

[Mr.unknown]

Originally posted by Tobalaz@Jul 22 2003, 09:49 AM
Everybody has some valid points to go off of, the TI4200 was a great reason to OC just like the R9500 non-pro on the 256 bit bus.&nbsp; AMD's are great for OC'ing as well since the Tbred-b is a monster you can push nearly a gig out of air cooled.&nbsp; But with more OCing is the need of more regular maintanance.&nbsp; So you're getting something extra with a little more effort.&nbsp; I usually buy the higher end stuff when I build my computers so I don't have to worry about upgrading for a while, and if it starts to run noticably slow I might bump up a few things here and there, god knows I OCed the hell out of my R8500 (which I bought new) till I could afford a R9700 when their prices dropped.&nbsp; You always seem to gain more out of OCing a gpu over a cpu, why is that?
I agree I would rather oc my vid card rather than oc my cpu
probably because a lot of games today rely more on the GPU so by ocing the GPU you are gaining much more gaming performance. also because I find it much safer and easier to do.

for example my friend who has a 1.6 gig p4 and a GF2 gets almost the same amount of frames in games like Unreal tournement 2003 as my computer when it had a GF2 in it I probably only beat his computer out only by about 10-20 just because of having a a faster proccesor but when I oc'ed my GF2 I got almost 35-40 frames faster than his computer.

[Smithmeister]

Originally posted by ILikeBeans+Jul 24 2003, 10:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ILikeBeans @ Jul 24 2003, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalhed4@Jul 24 2003, 08:34 PM
Whats tweak XP do exactly anyway?
it.....tweaks.....XP..... [/b][/quote]
Thanx for the in depth description lol. I found out anyways so.

[Haysoos]

Originally posted by Metalhed4+Jul 25 2003, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Metalhed4 @ Jul 25 2003, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Originally posted by ILikeBeans@Jul 24 2003, 10:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Metalhed4@Jul 24 2003, 08:34 PM
Whats tweak XP do exactly anyway?
it.....tweaks.....XP.....
Thanx for the in depth description lol. I found out anyways so. [/b][/quote]
Remember, there are no dumb questions, just a lot of inqusitive idiots... :shifty:

I've never tried to OC my vid card too much, didnt get a OC program (Rage tuner) until i got home, and now its too hot in my room to OC anything, maybe even with DBs methods...

[Smithmeister]

Ive overclocked by video card pretty well before. Its not anymore tho cuz i switched to a lanboy case which has less cooling. But i had that thing up to about equal to a ti4600. Which of course i could've done with a ti4200 but didnt kno better back then.

[Gizmo487]

I like your signature doorbasher...only i think its the other way around "If the computer runs fine, dont break it!"

[Doorbasher]

No! I overclock everything. I have an overclocked '286. My Athlon is overclocked. My duallie P2s are overclocked (Who msays you can't overclock a Supermicro board?) My duallie P1s are overclocked. Remember: Heatsinks work wonders.